BBCut and LiveCut
I've started making 2 VST plugins dedicated to breakbeat Cutting inspired by Nick Collins library for SuperCollider called BBCut.
thus the name BBCut for the instrument and LiveCut for the effect.
I have finally something roughly working and here is a demo.
BTW it seems that LiveCut isn't a very unique name so if you were after live concerts or video editing, maybe you'll find what you were looking for on one of those 2 sites:
http://www.livecut.com/ or http://livecut.sourceforge.net/
Labels: Livecut
55 Comments:
wow!! ...waiting patiently!!...
yep yep sounds good
Towards the end of the demo mp3 were some beautiful sounds - I await patiently.....
very promising... Can't wait to use this! You should think about adding a "slow"-function like in Bram's SupaTrigga.
Beatz,
DRONE
I've thought about it, I should also add upward or downward pitch-shifting for rolls.
obvisously BBCut will have more params than LiveCut, because you can much more things when you know all the data in advance, than when you just get-it on the fly sample by sample.
Very cool stuff indeed!! I can't wait until the wonderful fun of exporting and then picking and choosing begins. Really great work!
when, oh when?
this looks like a winner
that's fuckin' bitchin'.......
nice man.... nice!
oh man, this is sick!
Sounds great!! When when ??
COOOOL! im hopin for an AU version, or i may cry
adding correlative LFO's with selectable waveforms for start and end time as well as some of the beat repeat and other functions would be the biggest improvement to what already sounds better than ableton live's beat repeater plugin (version 5)
what do you mean by correlative LFO?
klingt guuut
reminds me of the coldcutter which hast been updated fr yrs. cant wait! luv u guys ;)
http://brightonart.org/coldcutter.shtml
crazy audio demo!
seems to be a graet tool!
just maybe some more colour/life in the final GUI, or what do I know eh? :)
keep it up!
wow! i seriously can't wait for this to get released!!!
correlative LFO: correlate the max and mins ( albeit with fidderent selectable waveforms) to be LINKED (or not) to where max and min repetitions and max and min phrase and maxmin amp are linked resectively to eachother. as well as lfo's on any other features. many times our thought processes are just complex combinations of simple lfo saw,ramp,tri, sine,square wavesso it saves alot of editing of automation data if we can test different audio with the automation built into the plugin. Also i built this kind of thing in Max Msp with another person from ircham about 4 years ago. So i know the results are quite intereesting. The only difference was that as my audio was accessed into the buffer the start of the buffer had an oscillating min and max start time and the endpoint of the loop had a min and max start time so that alone was pretty crazy but i linked all of that to a master lfo. Many people want to do everything by hand but i pretty much think in lfo's. so i also had preset save on each lfo and lfos's that would cycle through the presets. so in a few moments under this architecture i could create a whole song from one bar of a loop. ( oh yeah my buffer was moving by transients so every movement of the lfo would skip to the next transient instead of linearly through the buffer) i must say at very small sample sizes linear is very cool. but at that level it is more of a synth with a very interesting oscillator) hahah anyways these are just my thoughts. and your plugin is already useful so keep up the great work
Holy crap this sounds cool. When? When?
this looks realy nice. the demo sounded quite descent. some sort of up down rolling params sounds like a very good and unique thing to add. looking forward for this release. smart electronix is always full of great programmers. cheers
up and down pitchshift is planned fo rolls.
as well as a new GUI and an AU version too (later I guess).
Sounding absolutely wicked. It's a shame Nick Collins doesn't work in my department anymore. I'd have loved to have asked him about this.
i hope you all talked to your mothers today. i know this aint the place, but , give her a call, she probably wants to hear from you.
Yeee, cool,
Hope it's gonna have full midi CC table !
grate . cant wait to hear the relaly shitty work all the vst kids will do with it , i hope you rott in hell you little hack bastards . learn how to write music
Oh dear. Feeling a little bitter Anonymous? Scared that a VST plugin might have more talent than you?
your raping nick collins work to put it on this horrible grade f vst site, at least make sure you do it some justice.
I am in contact with Nick Collins and he has nothing against this project.
I you don't like it, you don't have to come here. Do something more useful.
meh, don't worry about the haters. the way i see it, anybody can blame a plugin for being the lazy way to achieve a certain type of sound but the reality of the matter is that the true laziness resides in the user. simple as that!
Yeah, this'll bring cutting en reordering slices/grains to a new level, not only for SuperCollider (and csound?) users. This kind of revealed a part of the mystery of Aphex Twin's sound to me. I hope making this technique more known will inspire other developers to make more very cool tools like this.
keep up the good work MDSP!
can't wait
I can't wait for the VST, demo sounds cool!
My brain spins at the possibilities for my music. What a great addition to my VST collection this would be!
In my experience, cutting loops in the correct fashion to suit a particular track is an art form of it's own. It takes time and hard work. Love the results though!
i can't wait to push this thing to its limits ;-)
oh man..,same text like in the scan-synth comment, can`t wait...
i think you work hard on this stuff, but i must say.., you MUST work harder!!!
:-)))
hopefully..,greetings..,thanks for your work before..!!
wrong..,
i have to be happy if you WANT to work..,
...hungry..
you fucking cunt, the only reason i saw this site, is because when searching bbcut on google your link is the 2nd from the top!
it seems nick collins site is gone also, could this be attributed to your farce of an idea?
will it have a console for inputing parameters to changes the routines?
or is this just another point an click pop song plugin?
well, don't be so arrogant.
BBCut is still available on nick's site.
http://www.cus.cam.ac.uk/~nc272/code.html
and sicklincoln is dead (if you want details ask nick).
and no, this plugin won't have a console to change the routines, use SuperCollider for that.
It is just another point an click pop song plugin and I'm prood of it!
if you have more to say contact me directly and please identify yourself, that's so easy to troll as anonymous.
what happen to Live Cut, I see it listed at kvr but the link doesn't work?
It's no released yet,
I expect a release before the end of july but I can't promise.
I have my driver license to pass by this time.
Wow some bitter comments from Mr Anon. Leave him to stew in his own misery juice. This plugin sounds like a great plan. Some of us don't have time to be learning something like Supercollider. My brain won't do maths. Looking forward to trying it out. Cheers!
Yo... sounds like some nice crazy sh*t. But if this is something like Supatrigga that it only reacts on a random base, is not made for automation and jumps to a different random setting (and not to that what I made it to), then it's definately not for me.
Yeah I'm an automation whore! I like to have everything under control. heh
Interesting as I wrote a simple hack of converting the bbcut to a VST plug last year but never got round to finishing it.
I'd agree with the poster that suggested using only parameters instead of randomisation so that you can reliably reproduce effects via sequencer automation. However, if the randomisation can be implemented in a way that *controls* the parameters instead, it would be a better approach. i.e. the randomisation can effectively be recorded in the same way user tweaking of the VST parameters is normally performed so that when a particularly good effect is achieved by the randomisation, the settings can be recorded and can be editted into work?
~Pev
P.S. To the Anonymous poster - If you've ever got involved in doing hundreds of edits by hand to produce similar effects in a DAW you'd understand the interest in automating it. Additionally being able to do the same on the fly from a live input via the VST plug is something very interesting. I don't think anyone's being ripped off especially as Nick's code is public, and being acknowledged. If you have nothing constructive to say, why don't you STFU?
http://dblue.illformed.org/?dir=code/glitch
Developers/members check this link out!
It by far is the best sounding glitch automation I have heard thus far. They are planning a vst and it has a gui someone made for it.
If you are looking for implementation sugestions look no further than there.
David Noller
www.myspace.com/dynamixii
www.dynamixii.com
www.zeroonemusic.com
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This plugin is da bomb!!!!!! I was wondering if you're planning on releasing a little document with V1.0 describing what the settings do, since I am rather producing random results. :) It's so much fun! Thanks for putting all the hard work into this and for giving it away for free!!!
Ken
two things: 1.] control over all the relative slider probabilities with one slider. 2.] an advanced user mode that can program probabilites on a time graph for this aforementioned slider and all other variables
ONE BIG thing: 3.] the pops and clicks are too much. There needs to be an improvement on the crossfading or simple fade out /in algorithm
if i could have control over the livecut output i would give up control of my bladder. i'm pushin 40 anyways so it would be a shrewd exchange on my part... :)
i havent used up so much time with a slack jawed expression in front of my computer since they invented internet sex...
i (semi)randomly-automated the parameters and just press play...after you bounce it its like harvesting fruit...just select out the dope measures and chop again.
please continue to develop this ...
respect!
LiveCut is by the perfect complement of suppatrigga i love it so much and u can be sure theres no track without it , hes alive hes strong , Warpcut rox !!
Good WOrk , ill look at the dev and ill never gratz you enough !! Sorry for my english im french .... lol Good luck and see ya ! ;p
Hi
Could it be posible to make a plugin
that perform similar functions like
Livecut on Midi loops?This will open
a new world for making own Midi loops.
Drago
i've though about that, but that's more tricky that just cutting a continuous audio stream.
doing it on the host side could be easier.
What about multi chanell in/out
so you can selectively feed livecut.
If you know LiveSlice VST this would be nice combination with Livecut.LiveSlice can slice loops and output the slices on
diferent outputs separately.Now imagine
if you could feed livecut separately
with BD ,SD ,HH,...on diferent chanells and separately output the livecuted BD,SD,...
Drago
i think it would be great if you could turn the cutting/rehashing on and off using automation so that you could make certain parts of a sequence unaltered, and chop up others.
Please please please make an intel mac compatible version!!!
I've not seen anyone mention the worst bug I repeatedly encounter which is currently the bane of my musical creativity - it simple stops outputting audio or outputs in very spuradic, short segments, this is not always the case but more often than not it is - atleast when I reload a track it seems, usually not during the original creation, I have tried all the following things but not been able to resolve the issuse and I hardly see how your anywhere near an alpha with this issuse in place:
A)Changing settings in the VST
B)Reloading the plug-in in the sequencer
C)Lowering audio buffers
D)Adding it to a different point in the sequence - if there are multiple instances running they all behave in this manner and seem to output audio in the same spuradic 2-3 times every 8 bars sorta fashion
E)Deleting & Reinstalling the .dll (This includs deleting any intial registry entries and other files which reference it)
F)Replacing 0.8 with 0.9 - issuse is the same in both of them
it's pretty basic so I can think of little to do other than that, I really like your software and interface desgin but for some reason it lacks functionality in my setup, I would dearly enjoy seeing the issuse resolved but I do not even see it addressed in bugs reports, fixes, comments etc...I'm certain it's not an issuse that's computer specific though as I can replicate the error on multiple machines
way cool plugin, except for the randomness of it. the demo song was cool too until you chopped up Squarepusher's "Kill Robok" at the end. Squarepusher is way to original to plagiarize, but your point is well taken.
love the vst man.
i used it on a track on my page.
www.myspace.com/creatorpop
nice work.
Anychance of making a more stable one that wont crash ableton live?
i would definatly use this vst live, but its kind of unreliable.
Fair play though!
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