LiveCut 0.8 summer beta preview
win32 LiveCut-0.8-beta-preview.dll.zip
macosx LiveCut-0.8-beta-preview.dmg.zip
due to high user demand I've decided to release a beta preview of Livecut for this summer so that you can glitch when I'll be in vacations :D
There are some change I'd like to make like adding factory presets and working on the GUI, but that will be after the summer.
Labels: Livecut
posted by mdsp @ Saturday, July 23, 2005
83 comments
83 Comments:
Yeah that's great!
But no sounds.
if you want some bugs reports... (in french) Let us know.
this plugin needs tempo sync information
and is known to work in bidule, minihost, cubase, orion, fruityloops (you may need to check 'use fixed sie buffers').
check this thread on kvraudio
Any plans for an OS X release?
yes, I'll do that this week.
I have no mac at home...
please for the osx version :-) i've been planning on porting bbcut to max/msp for a while - realllly nice to see someone has done the work already :-) cuz i donno if i could have!
best,
erik
http://www.hecanjog.com
Just had a blast with it in Live...and it IS a blast!
thank you!
works like a charm here.. keep on the good work and have nice holidays. ;)
great plug, mdsp.. my weekend was enlightened by this great software. thanks!! :)
OS X user very jealous of Windows users at the moment.
...will do my best to wait patiently....
-:)
Im having difficulties getting it to start.
Tried live 4, tracktion 2, Minihost and Polac VSTi loader.
They all claim its not a valid VST so I'm thinking its something with my system.
I'm running Windows 2000 with the latest patches and all, what is it asking for in the setup that my comp doesent have.
Anyone with similar problems (that solved it)?
do you have a PIII on your machine?
It's compiled for PIV and compatible processors.
there's no cpu check so I guess it's calling an unknown instruction.
tested OS X relesase under Peak 4.11. Crashed Peak.
testing under Plogue Bidule and not getting any sound out of it whats so ever.
it won't work in peak since peak doesn't send timeinfos.
for bidule try this patch.
http://mdsp.smartelectronix.com/plugins/livecutsimple.bidule
you need to have a sync provider
I'm running it in FL Studio, and although it sounds incredible, I can't get it to play for more than a few measures. I even tried rendering it as a WAV, and after 4 or 7 measures, it will drop out completely, leaving the rest of the WAV in silence. Is this due to the fact that it's a beta release?
got the bidule working for OS X. nice mdsp!
sick stuff!
any plans for an Audio Units version?
Is this due to the fact that it's a beta release?
NO it's not a demo version, beta just mean that it's not supposed to be a finalized version but there's nothing like removing features.
it just works for me in Fruity loops studio 5 in both pattern and song mode. try playing with the settings
any plans for an Audio Units version?
hopefully I've started working on it before someone asks me.
If you want an AU with a default GUI without any units on the controls, it's almost already there...
hi
tested it in renoise 1.5 on OS X and it stops putting out sound after a sec ond or so...
if i may add a feature request - implemented snyc. the vst~ in maxmsp doesnt send midisync info so livecut is unusuable there.. :/
p
wonderful, thx. lil feature request for when you get back: a 16 element grid where you can "lock out" processing - i know the probabilistic stuff is likely (heh) buried in the libs but you could just pass audio on marked beats. would be way more fun and less glitch-prone than automating Bypass in the seq/daw... great stuff, thanks again to both you and Nick (PS can't wait to play with scanSynth too! please put a sidechain in to do weird stuff! ;)
hi pure,
well for renoise I don't know, this is the second time I hear this.
for max/msp, I really don't want to use an internal sync, it's cycling74's job to implement the VST specs in vst~ not mine.
you should be able to use a metro connected to vst~ for example.
But I've already written some bits of a max/msp external for some max/msp addicted friends of mine. I have to dig the SDK in order to see how to use external max/msp clocks properly.
for the grid thing, really it's just some bypass automation to do in your host or a midi gate before livecut.
I don't want to reinvent the wheel for each plug.
what's really ground breaking in livecut (on which I want and like to spend time) are Nick's algorithms, which are much different from most audio slicers because they doesn't slice beats evenly.
come on don't be lazy, you don't want your computer to do everything for you isn't? :p
mdsp...
I'm curious to hear how LiveCut sounds but I'm also a Renoise user (tried it in Madtracker as well with no luck). Any chance you could post some demo mp3s for those of us who can't quite get it working?
PS. Cheers for the link to Glitch :)
eeeesh... never mind me, I'm a tard, haha. I just saw some mp3 links in another post. D'oh.
*crawls under a rock*
to all FLSTUDIO USERS : enable "use fixed size buffers", disable "mono inputs" and enable "send loop position"
in the vst wrapper options.
yet another interface using the overexposed and very cliched Neopolitan font. how original.
allright,
next time I won't release anything, you'll be happy.
I've said that the GUI is not finished, but anyway I don't see what you have against it.
my first goal was usablity, and FYI this GUI is based on sean evans work. I think he has nothing more to prove as a graphic designer.
it also uses the mini7 font which also over exposed but I can't see any problem with it.
it's not a design contest and remember that GUIs are also UIs and UI means usability, lisibility...
you've absolutely no right to criticize (it freeware man!), I could have left you with the default GUI of your host.
you really made very angry. You have no clue about the time I've spent working on it, you have too easy.
but you anonymous what can you do?
Works as a wonder in tracktion 2 on os x.
And I like the GUI a lot.
Its easy to se, its easy to use. you feel like you have full control over the parameters.
cant think of a better way to make it right now ... nope still cant ... maybe I'd change the rightmost yellowish colour to something else, and tightened it up a bit, but that could be because I'm on a 12" and everything feels a bit cramped.
The font is great
mdsp,
Using it in the Bidule you provided for OS X. I have never heard such a disgustingly sick plug-in like this before. What kind of genius of a mind is capable of designing such a machine? What planet are you from?
Keep up the good work. I would be happy to beta-test any of your designs any day.
xtzV2
P.S. how about a Random or Tomsound button? -;)
Is there any way to limit the silence? In FL5, I can't get the plugin to fill most of the space with sound. There are lots of gaps.
Thanks.
[d]
Freakin awesome!!! Just tell me where to send the money ;-).
My god it's amazing. I linked to you on my blog. Hope that's ok to you. Works like a dream in Live.
my good god this is madness
the future of electronic music is going to be maniacal...
thank u so much for this
i heard it said before with reaktor, and i'll be the one saying it this time...
poor squarepusher, he no longer holds power
dood you freakin rule. thank you for your work and effort on this. now instead of automating 3-4 plugins in Live I can just use this one. getting ready to try it now. thanks again man, if I get a single out there that uses this, you can bet I'll be paying your way for a while, 'cause I'm po-ass-broke fo now, but fo SHO!
You may have to walk us FL Studio users through this. I'm still having trouble with it. I get silence for 15 measures straight, and then a few notes pop up, and then nothing for another ten or fifteen measures.
thanks for the congratulations, and remember to thanks nick collins too, he's the genius behind BBCut.
and if you're into supercollider there are much more cutprocs in BBCut like trashcut or recursivecut...
for FL have a look at livecut threads on kvraudio, there are FL users that have sucessfully made it work.
cheers
rémy
Cubase SX2 doesn't see the VST. I've tried it on both an AMD XP2400 and a Centrino 1.6Ghz laptop.
No Joy.
Any ideas?
no idea,
maybe some other plugin already use this id 'lvct' there are so many plugins these days.
but it works for me with sx2 and athlon XP-m 2400
Hi,
does this work under Mac OS 10.2? It's not listed in bidule?
Thanks, Christian
is there going to be an AU version? please??
it has been compiled on 10.3 so ...
and for the AU the response is yes but not right NOW.
brilliant genius!! i like the GUI too so don't listen to the anonymous coward.
i can tell this plug is going to immediately become one of my most used. i've been doing stuff like this using various combinations of supatrigga, phutboyslim and the chopper in acid but this is so much more interesting.
hello remy
re. the sync issue i´ll contact some renoise developer.
for max/msp, I really don't want to use an internal sync, it's cycling74's job to implement the VST specs in vst~ not mine.
i absolutely agree but people are asking for this for long already and it still didnt happen :/
you should be able to use a metro connected to vst~ for example.
??? i really dont think its THAT simple as i tried just anything with no success but if this works i will feel like an idiot :)
But I've already written some bits of a max/msp external for some max/msp addicted friends of mine. I have to dig the SDK in order to see how to use external max/msp clocks properly.
sounds good! ;)
enjoy yr well earned holidays
p
you should be able to use a metro connected to vst~ for example.
??? i really dont think its THAT simple as i tried just anything with no success but if this works i will feel like an idiot :)
I don't say that it works, but that it should work like that.
maybe for the next major version of max/msp?
and thanks for the vacations, preparing my bags right now.
this is beautiful and disgusting. I love it. It works brilliantly in Live, and I'm going to mess with it in MAX/MSP and see what mayhem can occur. Thanks for making this - do you have any (even rudimentary) documentation I could see?
BTW - love the freaky little icon as well. You're my new hero!
Well done mate. Not often something like this makes me smile (I'm a miserable bugger normally!) - works well in Bidule. Just a pity I discovered it on a Sunday night! I have to get up early for work tomorrow!!!
Anyway, keep up the madness. We all need an escape route and you're drawing the map for us :-)
Hi Mdsp!
I am anxious to try LiveCut but have no Sound in Renoise and it seems the problem is outside Renoise. Could you please read this thread i started on Renoise forum?! http://www.renoise.com/board/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=7616&s=4cc188611ef35d1fa9356073e0900a13
and look if you can do something about it?!
Thanx allot in advance..
Cheers,
mlon
great plugin.
no joy in pD (v0.37) with vst~ : vst~ crashes.
also no joy in wavelab 4. You get a "plugin error". how informative.
Much joy with other hostesses: thank you.
after copying the LiveCut 0.8 Beta DLL to my plug-ins folder Logic 5.5.1 (PC) crashed at startup already... :(
Mdsp Livecut works fine to me in Live4, it is incredible : instant drill'n'bass !
yo !
I can't wait for the final 1,0 issue !!
Have very good holiodays and thank you again for that gift from the glitch gods !
Thanks dude really nice one...hope it will be 1.0 soon, one thing actually I did notice a lag of some milliseconds in delay in buffering the audio, didtry this in Live and Cubase same delay..it is because of my asio or because of the beta factor? cheers....
Great work! Thanks a lot....
But please don´t foget a AU Version of this outstanding plugin. Thanks ;)
Wow... This is a phenomenal plugin. Some of my friends turned me onto it this past weekend... This adds an extra element of psychedelic in psychedelic trance. I did have one minor question or concern.
Sometimes when livecut is doin it's thing it'll catch the audio at a wierd spot and produce a little click in the audio where it hasn't caught the audio at a zero crossing point. Is there any way to implement an envelope to perhaps cut down on the amount of clicking?
Doesn't work for me either -- invalid plugin. Tried it in FL3, Live4 and a DX wrapper -- all either crashed or plain wouldn't load it. I'm running Win98SE on a 1.21 GHz Athlon, guessing that's the problem. Ironically, it DOES work on my 500 MHz iBook.
I will be using LiveCut and Ableton Live for a live gig this friday night for the first time.
"Doesn't work for me either -- invalid plugin. Tried it in FL3, Live4 [...] I'm running Win98SE on a 1.21 GHz Athlon..."
I'm running Win xp on a 1.21 GHz Athlon... same prob, tried some more hosts (audiomulch, nuendo). is this prozessor related?
Just want to thank you for this excellent plug! I love it.
LiveCut worked well w/ Ableton Live for my live set last friday night. Props to mdsp!
I did experience some stuttering but I believe that was more of an Ableton Live issue.
Very nice plugin.
Will be producing more w/ this kind plug.
glad to hear that everything worked well.
I'm back from vacations, but I won't have spare time during september for plugin developpement.
rémy
Awesome plugin!
But this needs more parameters to tweak. And tempo-sync would be nice too.
Can I use this beta version in anyway with Logic 7 on Mac OSX ?
you guys should check out the patch for Reaktor called Squarepusherizer found at www.recordlabelrecords.org/reakor.html
what an amazing plug-in! can create some truly inspiring drum work if used sparingly.
unfortunately im suffering short audio cutouts when using the plug-in. i'm running it in Live5 on warpcut mode, with it sitting at 100% straight when not in use. at first i thought the cutouts were a soundcard issue (as im running the sound straight out of my ibook) but looking at the levels on the mixer, the sound is cutting out before it reached the master channel, so i can only guess its an issue with the vst.
the cutouts are only very short - more like pops, but they make it pretty impossible to use for live work, which is a real shame because its an otherwise amazing bit of work!
Right, ive extracted the file in the usual way into my vst plug ins folder bla bla but the plug in will not show up in ableton live 5, audio mulch or a cubase sx demo. I am extremely puzzled seen you all seem to have it working. Any suggestions?
Yeah! me too. doesn't show up in ableton 5 or anything :(
WouahhhhHH!!!
Great plug in!!!
working with Live 4.03...no probs at all!!!!!just maybe one!!! to many possibilities!!! :D
Big thanks to you dude!!
peace xx
absolutely frickin fantastic plugin mdsp ----- the future of music can be grasped with this -------- if I can get it to work properly over a whole pattern!!
If I loop a couple of patterns over ,say , 16 bars , it does its thing great , but if I take the loop off and play the same patterns in song mode , it does its stuttery fantastic thing for 4 bars and then doesnt affect the rest. I'm using F L 5 pro and up till now , I've been using supatrigga but this is an altogether much more versatile beastie. You're a very clever man. Please make some kinda manual for this when u get the time , as I think everyone else would agree , its a hard animal to tame. Keep up the good work !!!
I,m off to the livecut kvr threads to see if I can get some info.
cheers MDSP
Hey there... fantastic plug-in.. works great on my PC... on my powerbook however I'm having the same prob as a few other people - live 5 won't even recognize it as a plug-in at all... it won't show up in the list. Any suggestions?
hi,
works perfectly on Usine.
Great plugin.
Where could I find a user manual?
senso
cool, i'm glad it works with usine ;)
unfortunately there's no user manual for it yet.
the only thing that can help you are Nick Collins papers about BBCut and its SuperCollider code.
otherwise you can search kvr forums with the livecut keyword, I've already answered several questions there
THANK YOUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! =DDDD
TONZ OF LOVE MAN!!!! THIS THING MADE ME DROOL AND HAVE A MULTIPLE EARGASM FIRST TIME I HEARD IT..
no other plug other than the Trilogy/stylus/atmosphere has made me go nuts like that.. and all those 3 not close to as nuts as your plug did!!!
BOMSHAKAFUWKENLAKA!½!!!
works fine on my live 5 and cubase sx3, somteimes it stops playing audio but a simple turn off and on fixes it.
I'd like to see more temp syning and a greater ablility to control it somehow -
cheers!
YILA
Great plugin, but...
i moved from Live to Logic - so no more vst Plugins...
please please please - give use the AU version - even if its not looking that nice...
Thanks for your great work
a reset to default settings button would be nice esp for live performance. or how about a random button and also a reset to default settings button?
ta!
is it possible to find a small help file explaining the use of each knob? I have been using that plugin with Live 5 for 6 months, but i still don't understand the parameters of the warp section??? And what's the use of the "seed" function? thanx. oups.. i forgot. This is a great muttaf*** fx, and i love it. keep doin awesome stuff like this, dudes !!!!
hi,
I'll set a wiki on my site to document the plugins, I think this is the best way to go, so that people can also contribute.
and add links to audio material they've done with them.
for the warp mode,
you have probability sliders between [0.0;1.0]
* straight probability of having a cut
* regular probability of regularly spaced repeated cuts
* ritard probability of accelerating/decellerating cuts
* speeed acceleration/deceleration speed
IIRC straight chooses roll vs no roll
if there is a roll
then the regular and ritard sliders act as weighted probabilities, (1.0,1.0) is equivalent to (0.5,0.5)
if you can find better names, I'll take them.
and once the wiki will be setup please contribute.
could i suggest an attack and release function to remove clips ;)
Hey,
Really nice work on the plug in. I have been working on a glitch aesthetic for a little bit, and this is so great, it almost feels like cheating.
Hi mdsp,
In (Jeskola)Buzz it works just every now and then. meaning it eats lets say 3 to 8 measures out of 8 :)
frustrating considering how it sounds when working.
mmh.
my CPU is a mobile AMD Athlon XP 2600+ (1,4Ghz)
could it be related ?
If anyone was more succesfull than me in Buzz let us know please !
peez
toyz
http://toyzRme.femalepleasure.org/toyz.htm
hi,
having a good synchronization to host that works in every host can be very tricky. That's why it's still a beta release.
the 4/4 8th note case is the one that should work best at least in live and bidule.
BTW please have a look in the wiki documentation.
http://mdsp.smartelectronix.com/doc/index.php/Livecut#FAQ.2C_Troobleshooting
Really love that plug-in!
One problem though, I use it in Cubase SL, it works fine, till i try to export the audio...Than the program crashes...(eror)
Is there a solution to this? (if it has to do with offline processing, damn it, u cant use that on plug-ins in SL...) :(
I also tried the VST in Sony Vegas, but somehow i cant get it to work there (i see the plug in but there are no changes to the sound)...
Thx again for the plug in though!
live cut kick ass!!!
when will u release an universal binary version?!
i love it
Thank you so much!
Guys, im running the Live cut 8 (i think thats what it's called)
and using if as a plug in on pro tools
on a macbook pro, and the VST works howeever it only plays there is no way to move the controlers??
should i download it again is there something thats happened throughout download
or can i change setting on it somehow to make buttons usable...
COS i cant change the timing etc or anything and is therefor useless.
k@tt
myspace.com/kattmniall
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